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 ARCHIVED TOPIC: Classical mandolin: composer's name and piece

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ENKetwaru - Posted - 08/29/2018:  08:48:38

My father was an amateur mandolin player who enjoyed classical music. This piece (ending) is of one of his mandolin concerts (with piano). I'm trying to find the name of the composer and the name of the composition. Please help...

Texasbanjo - Posted - 08/30/2018:  04:52:43

Are you trying to upload a video or just post an URL to the song?

You can do either, I think. To upload a video, scroll to the bottom of this page and click on video and then upload video. Put in URL (and if I remember correctly, the video has to be on U-tube) and then click on okay. You can also just put an URL on your post to where the video is located and I believe that will work, too (not positive on that one since I don't upload videos).

ENKetwaru - Posted - 08/30/2018:  05:00:46

Thank you for your reply. I uploaded an mp3. It is visible and audible to me but not to others? If this is the case then what is the rationale behind uploading media files to this site if forum members cannot see or hear them and they need an external link?


Edited by - ENKetwaru on 08/30/2018 05:12:17

Texasbanjo - Posted - 08/31/2018:  04:58:19

My bad!!! You did upload an MP3, just not on this thread. One has to go to your home page and find it or look under Media and new songs. I didn't look yesterday.

ENKetwaru - Posted - 08/31/2018:  06:00:22

Sorry for my mistake and thank you for your explanation. Now I will try to get the mp3 on this forum. Hm, I can't find a way to get this mp3 on the forum. I'm stuck. Any suggestions?

Edited by - ENKetwaru on 08/31/2018 06:07:36

ENKetwaru - Posted - 08/31/2018:  10:36:49

I hope this works...

ENKetwaru - Posted - 08/31/2018:  10:56:07

No it doesn't. The attachment is stuck on my home page.

Noto - Posted - 09/01/2018:  16:27:35

The composition is Valzer Fantastico by ENRICO MARUCELLI (1877–1907)

Edited by - Noto on 09/01/2018 16:29:29

ENKetwaru - Posted - 09/03/2018:  07:21:19

I appreciate your reply. Thank you very very much!

Wikipedia has no entry for Marucelli and there they spell his name as 'Marcelli' (with his 'Fantastic Waltz'). I also checked your reply with performances of this composition on You tube. I think that my father's interpretation of Marucelli's composition differs much from all other interpretations. Maybe because he uses his mandolin as the Indian sitar (and vice versa) with bourdon-like accompaniment or maybe he used (not prescribed) accords?

I don't know. I grew up with the sound of my father playing the mandolin and for decades he was the only mandolin player I ever heard. It was quite a shock to hear the sound of other mandolinists on You tube. The sound of these mandolins are totally different. It was like listening to the 'thin' (gravi)cembalo's, compared with the piano-like sound my father produced on his mandolin. I'm an amateur musician (recorder and piano) and I must confess: I never touched the mandolin so I am not qualified at all to give any opinion on sound quality, competence or technique.

Maybe you can enlighten me on this matter?

Edited by - ENKetwaru on 09/03/2018 07:24:27

Noto - Posted - 09/04/2018:  19:11:27

oops, I am so sorry, I had the wrong classical piece in mind.
Your father is performing Capriccio Spagnuolo, Op.276 by Carlo Munier. It is great that he performed this music.
I wonder what type of mandolin he used for the recording?

ENKetwaru - Posted - 09/05/2018:  08:16:08

Capriccio Spagnuolo, indeed. Haha, and that's why I couldn't recognize the Fantastico and blamed the sound or extra accords and I don't know what. (Hm, it also shows how dumb I am). - But wait, listening to several performances of this composition on You tube, I hear these 'thin' mandolin sounds everywhere. What's wrong with me?
My father was always searching for a 'richer' sound on his mandolin and sitar. (He also was an avid sitar player, so much so that he even performed in Holland, England en Germany. At home he constantly tried to perfect the bridge of his sitar and he bought several pieces of ivory which he filed to experiment with the sound. My mother and I got tired of him asking 'does this one sounds better'? because we had no understanding of the subtleties he was looking for).
He was first and foremost a music pedagogue and most of his time was spent with teaching and music theory. Yet, already in his mid-sixties and at a family visit in Holland where most of his children live, he also visited the Amsterdam Conservatory. There he performed for the examiners, aiming for the practice diploma. They were impressed. It was quite uncommon: an instrumentalist without formal training who could easily play all the prescribed classical mandolin compositions. He got his diploma.
The mp3 I uploaded was from his last performance in Paramaribo (Suriname). He was 72 and one year later he suffered a second brain stroke which was fatal.
I will upload a video with the Capriccio Spagnuolo but I beg you not to be too harsh on his performance on this 'concert': eighteen months before, he had suffered his first brain stroke which paralysed his left arm for several months. This video is from a house concert for family and friends and it was a 'surprise' from his children in Holland to celebrate his 70th birthday leaving him almost no room to practice (with the pianist).
Anyhow, you can clearly see and hear the mandolin he used for his performances. But first... I have to upload the video to You tube and this will take some time because I have no experience with this.

ENKetwaru - Posted - 09/05/2018:  11:41:47

I did it! Very simple, just dragged and dropped:

Noto - Posted - 09/05/2018:  17:58:11


Thank you for sharing that video, it is great to hear of his success' but sad that he had the strokes.

I can't make out what make of mandolin he is playing (the players on mandolin cafe would know) but it is not a bowlback.

Bowlback mandolins are typically used in classical and Italian music, they are brighter and many players prefer brilliance of sound over the sound of Gibson or F hole mandolins.


Edited by - Noto on 09/05/2018 17:59:28

ENKetwaru - Posted - 09/11/2018:  06:32:47

Again, thank you for your reply.
I will try to get accustomed to the brilliance of sound produced by the pro-mandolin players. Anyhow, it was great to hang out with you.

mmuussiiccaall - Posted - 09/13/2018:  05:39:22

Here's the sheet

ENKetwaru - Posted - 09/13/2018:  17:01:38

Thank you so much!
I really appreciate your effort.

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